Our collaboration started two years ago with the projet « Papier machine » but we in uence each other work a long time before. Our approaches are complementary and whereas our background di er, our interest were always both to designing a moment, whereas it’s 5 min or one year, and whereas it’s include technology or not. Objects, space and interactions are here to serve the experience. More than in its function, we are interested in the form of the technology and the shape of the situation it enable. Through our projects we are trying to develop a singular aesthetic of the interaction, related to the narrative and imaginary we are telling ourself. Together in 2015, we have been laureate of the TE ATAATA residency, in Auckland (NZ), commissioned by French Embassy in New Zealand and Colab, AUT (Auckland University of technology).